Comments on: Good enough? http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/ technology, libraries, and schools Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:49:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Janice Friesen http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-1203 Janice Friesen Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:09:33 +0000 http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/#comment-1203 I have done some searching and run across a really fun video at TeacherTube on database use. I thought you might enjoy it! http://www.teachertube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ba543ae44b22bd110a1d I have done some searching and run across a really fun video at TeacherTube on database use. I thought you might enjoy it!

http://www.teachertube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ba543ae44b22bd110a1d

]]> By: Carolyn Foote http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-1201 Carolyn Foote Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:11:40 +0000 http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/#comment-1201 Update--David Warlick has an interesting post about modeling aloud for our students when we think through what sources we share with them. http://davidwarlick.com/2cents/2007/09/12/shhh-im-googling-my-facts/ Update–David Warlick has an interesting post about modeling aloud for our students when we think through what sources we share with them.

http://davidwarlick.com/2cents/2007/09/12/shhh-im-googling-my-facts/

]]> By: futura http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-1200 futura Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:12:18 +0000 http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/#comment-1200 Dean, I agree. Part of what I tried to do in the summer workshop was talk about "when" to use which, and I think that's a discussion we need to continue to have with students. I also agree we need to challenge them to dig deeper and to investigate thoroughly. The design of an assignment has a lot to do with that as well. If the students are asked a lot, they will give a lot. And of course it depends on the purpose of their assignment--sometimes all that is needed is a quick answer, and sometimes something more is required. I think the concern is that often, even though more is required, we aren't challenging students to go that extra mile. We're accepting sources that are "good enough" and not being intellectually rigorous with our own expectations, if that makes sense? Lesley, Thanks for the comment...and by the way, the image is from "The Simpsons," so it's definitely satirical ;) Dean, I agree. Part of what I tried to do in the summer workshop was talk about “when” to use which, and I think that’s a discussion we need to continue to have with students. I also agree we need to challenge them to dig deeper and to investigate thoroughly. The design of an assignment has a lot to do with that as well. If the students are asked a lot, they will give a lot. And of course it depends on the purpose of their assignment–sometimes all that is needed is a quick answer, and sometimes something more is required.

I think the concern is that often, even though more is required, we aren’t challenging students to go that extra mile. We’re accepting sources that are “good enough” and not being intellectually rigorous with our own expectations, if that makes sense?

Lesley, Thanks for the comment…and by the way, the image is from “The Simpsons,” so it’s definitely satirical ;)

]]> By: Lesley Edwards http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-1199 Lesley Edwards Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:40:15 +0000 http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/#comment-1199 It's encouraging to see that as librarians we are not alone in asking ourselves these questions. (BTW, I'm not sure that I would be inclined to purchase the product in the picture based on the text! What are they actually trying to say? There's a lesson in there somewhere I think.) In some areas it comes down to what resources any given school district/board is able to fund. I envy the lavish selection of online databases some schools have access to. So I guess I might echo Doug Johnson but say we have to work with what resources we have as well. I'll be following this thread in your blog with great interest. Thanks! It’s encouraging to see that as librarians we are not alone in asking ourselves these questions. (BTW, I’m not sure that I would be inclined to purchase the product in the picture based on the text! What are they actually trying to say? There’s a lesson in there somewhere I think.)
In some areas it comes down to what resources any given school district/board is able to fund. I envy the lavish selection of online databases some schools have access to. So I guess I might echo Doug Johnson but say we have to work with what resources we have as well.
I’ll be following this thread in your blog with great interest. Thanks!

]]> By: Dean Shareski http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-1198 Dean Shareski Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:46:29 +0000 http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/09/12/good-enough/#comment-1198 Sometimes "good enough" is the proper choice. If I want to the weather for tomorrow, I do a quick check on a single website and that's good enough. However, if I'm planning to go sailing, I need more than that. I'd need to find out wind, POP, temperatures and conditions at specific times, etc. I agree that we need to know how to go deeper but also when. Teachers are too often offended by students who submit work and comment that it's good enough. Largely this is because they don't see value to dig deeper. It's our job to give them reason to dig deeper. Challenging questions, engaging activities, personal connections should prompt us to dig deeper. My point is "good enough" is not always bad. Sometimes “good enough” is the proper choice. If I want to the weather for tomorrow, I do a quick check on a single website and that’s good enough. However, if I’m planning to go sailing, I need more than that. I’d need to find out wind, POP, temperatures and conditions at specific times, etc.

I agree that we need to know how to go deeper but also when. Teachers are too often offended by students who submit work and comment that it’s good enough. Largely this is because they don’t see value to dig deeper. It’s our job to give them reason to dig deeper. Challenging questions, engaging activities, personal connections should prompt us to dig deeper.

My point is “good enough” is not always bad.

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