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		<title>By: David Truss</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Truss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been limited by the technology my school can provide time and again:-(
About a year and a half ago, I got out of Plato&#039;s cave, saw the vibrancy technology can provide in a student&#039;s learning experience and I have been constantly thrown back into the cave to watch the technology-less shadows... A disconnect indeed!

For me the (hardware) tools are computers, ideally wireless laptops. 

For many others, as I have been learning, the (web2.0/software) tools themselves are unimportant compared to access, opportunity, and COLLABORATION TIME. Tools are getting so much more user-friendly, but using them &lt;i&gt;for&lt;i&gt; learning (rather than just to teach old things in new ways), that is the trick. Case in point: I have seen a few blogs where students answer a teacher question, but don&#039;t interact with each other in any meaningfully way. 
So for many teachers collaboration time, or training, or professional development opportunities are more important than tools (in my humble opinion).

Put 2 or more well-intentioned teachers in a room and practice will improve. Don&#039;t offer specific tools, offer opportunities for people to Connect &amp; Collaborate &amp; Creatively engage with tools of their choice.
Oh yeah... but make sure they have the technology available to make this time useful when they get back into their classrooms!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been limited by the technology my school can provide time and again:-(<br />
About a year and a half ago, I got out of Plato&#8217;s cave, saw the vibrancy technology can provide in a student&#8217;s learning experience and I have been constantly thrown back into the cave to watch the technology-less shadows&#8230; A disconnect indeed!</p>
<p>For me the (hardware) tools are computers, ideally wireless laptops. </p>
<p>For many others, as I have been learning, the (web2.0/software) tools themselves are unimportant compared to access, opportunity, and COLLABORATION TIME. Tools are getting so much more user-friendly, but using them <i>for</i><i> learning (rather than just to teach old things in new ways), that is the trick. Case in point: I have seen a few blogs where students answer a teacher question, but don&#8217;t interact with each other in any meaningfully way.<br />
So for many teachers collaboration time, or training, or professional development opportunities are more important than tools (in my humble opinion).</p>
<p>Put 2 or more well-intentioned teachers in a room and practice will improve. Don&#8217;t offer specific tools, offer opportunities for people to Connect &amp; Collaborate &amp; Creatively engage with tools of their choice.<br />
Oh yeah&#8230; but make sure they have the technology available to make this time useful when they get back into their classrooms!</i></p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Foote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Foote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks all.  

Kelly, Those are some great questions.  I think, as Jen mentioned, we should be enlisting the aid of outside organizations to study some of these questions--not just businesses but our professional organizations.

Thinking of studies that the library associations have been doing on the correlation between libraries and student achievement, and how powerful those have been for librarians.  
http://www.lrs.org/impact.php

I think we all should be collecting anecdotal information as well.  For example, surveying our own faculties--or gathering &quot;qualitative&quot; statements about what these tools do to support instruction.   It&#039;d be interesting to see a survey with room for comments from your staff about their use of a tool like YouTube in the classroom(SurveyMonkey would be great for that.)

It&#039;d be great to use the collaborative power of our networks to help pull together information that teachers everywhere could use to support web 2.0 tools in the classroom!

I&#039;m wondering if it matters that, as Jen mentioned, some of the tools are transitory.  Isn&#039;t it the process that the tools allow that are the most important, and teaching students to adapt ;) or ourselves to adapt? ;)

Thanks again for the thought-provoking comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all.  </p>
<p>Kelly, Those are some great questions.  I think, as Jen mentioned, we should be enlisting the aid of outside organizations to study some of these questions&#8211;not just businesses but our professional organizations.</p>
<p>Thinking of studies that the library associations have been doing on the correlation between libraries and student achievement, and how powerful those have been for librarians.<br />
<a href="http://www.lrs.org/impact.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.lrs.org/impact.php</a></p>
<p>I think we all should be collecting anecdotal information as well.  For example, surveying our own faculties&#8211;or gathering &#8220;qualitative&#8221; statements about what these tools do to support instruction.   It&#8217;d be interesting to see a survey with room for comments from your staff about their use of a tool like YouTube in the classroom(SurveyMonkey would be great for that.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be great to use the collaborative power of our networks to help pull together information that teachers everywhere could use to support web 2.0 tools in the classroom!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if it matters that, as Jen mentioned, some of the tools are transitory.  Isn&#8217;t it the process that the tools allow that are the most important, and teaching students to adapt <img src='http://futura.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  or ourselves to adapt? <img src='http://futura.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks again for the thought-provoking comments.</p>
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		<title>By: kwhobbes</title>
		<link>http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/10/01/the-disconnect/comment-page-1/#comment-1248</link>
		<dc:creator>kwhobbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are good questions and one&#039;s, I believe, that many of us are asking without having the benefit to many answers. At this stage, it&#039;s hard to find any answers because of the access issue. It is hard to determine if such sites as Facebook or Youtube would provide a benefit to schools because of the lack of schools that have access. As for such tools as wikis and blogs, many of us are using them but we haven&#039;t had to the time to see how they affect students&#039; knowledge and creativity. We all &quot;know&quot; that authentic comments are great when students are blogging but the &quot;statistical&quot; impact just isn&#039;t there, from what I can see for if it was, we&#039;d all have access because people would be sharing. My question is more about what should we be examining, what data do we need, how would we use it and what is the main goal? I know that my own teachers were a bit upset last week when we went from being able to access Youtube to being tubeless. A whole group of things had to be reworked. I find it a real problem working with communication technology that my students cannot access sound bites and various videos or documentaries because of where they are. I am thinking of creating a Ning group to share the videos and documentaries and have students share things just because it would get around some of the blocking problems we have encountered. Until they figure out what we&#039;re doing and Ning goes down. 

Sorry, more questions than answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are good questions and one&#8217;s, I believe, that many of us are asking without having the benefit to many answers. At this stage, it&#8217;s hard to find any answers because of the access issue. It is hard to determine if such sites as Facebook or Youtube would provide a benefit to schools because of the lack of schools that have access. As for such tools as wikis and blogs, many of us are using them but we haven&#8217;t had to the time to see how they affect students&#8217; knowledge and creativity. We all &#8220;know&#8221; that authentic comments are great when students are blogging but the &#8220;statistical&#8221; impact just isn&#8217;t there, from what I can see for if it was, we&#8217;d all have access because people would be sharing. My question is more about what should we be examining, what data do we need, how would we use it and what is the main goal? I know that my own teachers were a bit upset last week when we went from being able to access Youtube to being tubeless. A whole group of things had to be reworked. I find it a real problem working with communication technology that my students cannot access sound bites and various videos or documentaries because of where they are. I am thinking of creating a Ning group to share the videos and documentaries and have students share things just because it would get around some of the blocking problems we have encountered. Until they figure out what we&#8217;re doing and Ning goes down. </p>
<p>Sorry, more questions than answers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you need to get the major corporate entities behind this.  They are the ones who will benefit from the school purchases and will retain students as customers for decades to come.  They need to be breathing down the necks of institutions and championing teachers.  How did they get all those Apples in the classrooms back in the 80&#039;s?  Corporations should sponsor awards for teachers using their tools.  Maybe then, when schools realize they have award winning teachers, institutions will do what needs to be done to get the tools to the students.
On the flip side, maybe this isn&#039;t already happening because many of these tools don&#039;t have sustainable revenue models and won&#039;t be around much longer.  In that case, are we even doing a service to our students when we promote them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you need to get the major corporate entities behind this.  They are the ones who will benefit from the school purchases and will retain students as customers for decades to come.  They need to be breathing down the necks of institutions and championing teachers.  How did they get all those Apples in the classrooms back in the 80&#8217;s?  Corporations should sponsor awards for teachers using their tools.  Maybe then, when schools realize they have award winning teachers, institutions will do what needs to be done to get the tools to the students.<br />
On the flip side, maybe this isn&#8217;t already happening because many of these tools don&#8217;t have sustainable revenue models and won&#8217;t be around much longer.  In that case, are we even doing a service to our students when we promote them?</p>
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		<title>By: cburell</title>
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		<dc:creator>cburell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a Yank abroad, all I can offer is hidemyass.com, anonymouse.com, and other online proxy servers. Google it and you&#039;ll find more. They get around blocks.

This post makes me thankful I teach in a wonderfully open school. Skype, YouTube, wikis, Facebook - all allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a Yank abroad, all I can offer is hidemyass.com, anonymouse.com, and other online proxy servers. Google it and you&#8217;ll find more. They get around blocks.</p>
<p>This post makes me thankful I teach in a wonderfully open school. Skype, YouTube, wikis, Facebook &#8211; all allowed.</p>
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